So as I'm looking at job ads, I'm noticing how many employers require applicants to have a master's degree along with proof of success in the field for pissant jobs with sucky wages. So I'm wondering why the fuck we're not requiring this of the President of the United States.

Most jobs these days that pay above 30K a year require at least a bachelor degree. You can get away with a C average in basket weaving, so I think you need to step it up to a masters if you want to be President. Forget about averages, you need at least a B in a graduate level class to even pass it. This would weed out the Bushs of the world that maintained a 2.0 GPA at Yale even with a slew of Ds and Fs because they sought out the easy classes to get the occassional A or B.

Maybe they can apply for the job with only a bachelors if they have 20 years of experience with proof of success and leadership skills. I haven't decided yet.

Okay, seriously, why the hell aren't we making education and experience an issue with regards to the most powerful leader in the country? Just because some yahoo graduated from Yale, Harvard or Princeton, doesn't mean they're capable of the job. It means they had the money to get in and the ability to pull off a 2.0. In their tenure at Yale, both Bush and Kerry had a C average (a 77 and 76 percent respectively). Fuck me. Would you want a doctor performing an operation on you if they had a C average? Probably not. But sure! Run the country, how hard can it be...

This of course isn't saying that the Master's degree is the end all be all. Of course not. Condoleeza Rice has a Ph.D. and look at what she did with it. I sometimes wonder though if she's seething with fury everytime Bush opens his mouth. That's her boss. It really must suck. Still, she made her bed. So advanced degrees definitely don't make you the best candidate for anything. But it's interesting to see how many people think this is what's needed to basically get a low power, pissant job you will definitely be over qualified for - versus how many people don't think it matters a wit for the job of the Presidency.

From: [identity profile] wiebke.livejournal.com


Personally I am very glad my professional doesn't require a graduate degree. Actually, until a few years ago, even a bachelor's wasn't required, if you had experience being a professional computer geek.

From: [identity profile] catscradle.livejournal.com


Yeah, my brother-in-law and one of my best friends are senior programmers and consultants - one majored in technical writing and the other in philosophy. Everything computer related they taught themselves. Geeks in garages are the reason we even have a computer society today. So yeah.

At my former job where we offer masters degrees in CIS, I'd typically ask the student if they were looking to get into management - as that was the only reason they'd need the masters. Otherwise the way cheaper certificates were better just to keep updated in new technology. However, and more to the point of why I wrote this, they were being forced by their companies to come to our school and get the masters - or lose their job as the positions were being re-writen to require a masters. It was completely stupid, but it seems to be the new wave.

Personally, I don't think my job now should require a masters - but it does. I'm the first advisor brought in with the degree and thus far I'm the most bored and discontent. If they had me teaching, like they promised me, the masters degree would be necessary, but they keep finding reasons to keep me glued to my office.

My main point here was just that you have all these jobs that realistically shouldn't require a masters, but do - plus have pretty low pay because they never updated the payscale to coinside with the extra education and expense - yet the highest position in the country doesn't require this. It's depressing.

From: [identity profile] wiebke.livejournal.com


I agree with your point. Has there EVER been a president with a grad degree -- that they earned BEFORE being elected? I know that such degrees didn't exist when people like Jefferson (who had them de facto!) were around, but still, I wonder.

In my immediate family, there are 9 Master's degrees and 1 Ph.D. (my oldest sister, who's a prof at Oberlin). A bunch of my siblings have TWO Master's. None of my grandparents got further than elementary school.
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